Comments on: The Catalytic Cross http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/ davemiers.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:00:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1993 David Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:30:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1993 hey man - are you coming on summerfest??<br/>we need you on the junior teens section. hey man – are you coming on summerfest??
we need you on the junior teens section.

]]> By: hayesy http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1992 hayesy Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:29:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1992 ps join our nitechurch outreach facebook group.<br/>Its called EV Mission Outreach.<br/><br/>peace ps join our nitechurch outreach facebook group.
Its called EV Mission Outreach.

peace

]]> By: hayesy http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1991 hayesy Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:25:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1991 Yeah Google is never a good port-of-call if you want a few results.<br/><br/>You might be interested in his so-called 'shocking youth sermon'. (given that you work with youth...)<br/>To watch it, try here:<br/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8<br/>Or you can download an mp3<a HREF="http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=52906154239" REL="nofollow">here</a><br/><br/>That's the only full message I've heard from him, but I've heard pieces of other ones, and interviews. He isn't always as 'shocking' - but He is always as powerfully faithful in uncomfortable truths.<br/><br/>This guy reckons these are the 3 best:<br/>http://bloodtippedears.blogspot.com/2007/04/paul-washer_06.html<br/>The bottom one interests me. (5 more exams and I'll listen to it!) Yeah Google is never a good port-of-call if you want a few results.

You might be interested in his so-called ‘shocking youth sermon’. (given that you work with youth…)
To watch it, try here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8
Or you can download an mp3here

That’s the only full message I’ve heard from him, but I’ve heard pieces of other ones, and interviews. He isn’t always as ‘shocking’ – but He is always as powerfully faithful in uncomfortable truths.

This guy reckons these are the 3 best:
http://bloodtippedears.blogspot.com/2007/04/paul-washer_06.html
The bottom one interests me. (5 more exams and I’ll listen to it!)

]]> By: David http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1987 David Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:11:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1987 hey haysey...<br/><br/>i just googled him... too many videos and pages... so... shoot me the video that's stood out to you the most.<br/><br/><br/>i've been reading more about greg stier and the dare2share ministry.<br/>it looks pretty good!<br/>might blog on it more in the future.<br/><br/>peaceout<br/><br/>davo. hey haysey…

i just googled him… too many videos and pages… so… shoot me the video that’s stood out to you the most.

i’ve been reading more about greg stier and the dare2share ministry.
it looks pretty good!
might blog on it more in the future.

peaceout

davo.

]]> By: hayesy http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1986 hayesy Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:34:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1986 Just thought of something: Dave, have you heard of Paul Washer?<br/>He is on about the Cross in a big, big, BIG way. Just thought of something: Dave, have you heard of Paul Washer?
He is on about the Cross in a big, big, BIG way.

]]> By: jpj http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1974 jpj Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:48:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1974 Awesome blog by Greg!<br/><br/>Marko, definitely agree that youth ministries should focus on other aspects of Jesus.<br/><br/>The danger:<br/>Multi-focus can lead to blurred centrality, which distorts Christianity.<br/>That has been my experience serving in youth ministry.<br/><br/>The solution:<br/>The cross needs to be central, and<br/>the cross needs to interpret.<br/><br/>If these two are combined then<br/>- creation<br/>- incarnation<br/>- parables<br/>- miracles<br/>- justice<br/>all flow from the same entry point.<br/><br/>Paul says <i> "For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified." </i><br/>and then he continues with many words on many issues.<br/><br/>I want to imitate Paul as he imitated Christ.<br/><br/>Peace out<br/>JPJ Awesome blog by Greg!

Marko, definitely agree that youth ministries should focus on other aspects of Jesus.

The danger:
Multi-focus can lead to blurred centrality, which distorts Christianity.
That has been my experience serving in youth ministry.

The solution:
The cross needs to be central, and
the cross needs to interpret.

If these two are combined then
- creation
- incarnation
- parables
- miracles
- justice
all flow from the same entry point.

Paul says “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.”
and then he continues with many words on many issues.

I want to imitate Paul as he imitated Christ.

Peace out
JPJ

]]> By: marko http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-1973 marko Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:37:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2007/11/06/the-catalytic-cross/#comment-1973 wait -- i didn't say i "disagree" that teenagers need to know about the cross! i just think they need to know more about jesus than only the cross. i don't want to reduce jesus to only the cross. i want teenagers to know the jesus of creation, the jesus of the incarnation, the jesus of the parables and justice and healing and all the other stuff of his life and message, and the jesus of resurrection, IN ADDITION to the jesus of the cross. wait — i didn’t say i “disagree” that teenagers need to know about the cross! i just think they need to know more about jesus than only the cross. i don’t want to reduce jesus to only the cross. i want teenagers to know the jesus of creation, the jesus of the incarnation, the jesus of the parables and justice and healing and all the other stuff of his life and message, and the jesus of resurrection, IN ADDITION to the jesus of the cross.

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