Comments on: Don’t steal God’s Glory #1 http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/ davemiers.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:00:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Reformation Day – Don’t Steal God’s Glory | dave miers dot com http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/comment-page-1/#comment-10646 Reformation Day – Don’t Steal God’s Glory | dave miers dot com Sun, 31 Oct 2010 03:02:46 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/#comment-10646 [...] Don’t steal God’s Glory #1 [...] [...] Don’t steal God’s Glory #1 [...]

]]> By: John C. http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6952 John C. Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:11:36 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/#comment-6952 Interesting thought on Luther. Though, if I read Luther and the history bools correctly, Luther was very much attempting to "reform" the church, which he felt was still the body of Christ - only misguided. Of course, later on he realized that he would be better off leaving the RC institution. Similar to a pagan tribesman that comes to know the Lord, I think every newly-regenerated Catholic should first pray and ask God if their mission field is right before them. The call of the great commission is to first minister where we are at. I think that is what Martin Luther did and perhaps a truly Christian Cathloic would do better by staying in the RCC, at least initially. Of course, I am not saying this is prescriptive for everyone. Nor am I saying that missions to the Catholic church can only be done "on the inside". Interesting thought on Luther. Though, if I read Luther and the history bools correctly, Luther was very much attempting to “reform” the church, which he felt was still the body of Christ – only misguided. Of course, later on he realized that he would be better off leaving the RC institution.

Similar to a pagan tribesman that comes to know the Lord, I think every newly-regenerated Catholic should first pray and ask God if their mission field is right before them. The call of the great commission is to first minister where we are at. I think that is what Martin Luther did and perhaps a truly Christian Cathloic would do better by staying in the RCC, at least initially. Of course, I am not saying this is prescriptive for everyone. Nor am I saying that missions to the Catholic church can only be done “on the inside”.

]]> By: davemiers http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2556 davemiers Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:29:29 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/#comment-2556 so much of being a catholic is about "belonging" rather than "believing". it's a family culture thing that you are born into. i know of a solid guy who spent 10 years continuing to "belong" to the roman catholic church even though he genuinely "believed" the gospel of Grace Alone in Christ Alone by Faith Alone. he speaks of 2 conversions: 1) a born again converted to Jesus and being saved by his grace. 2) and then 10 years later - being converted out of the roman catholic church. he is now a pastor in a protestant church (and doing some fine things in helping people to think through the difs b/w RCC and the Gospel). so i think that you can be a Christian and still part of the Catholic church - but my guess is that, like my friend, you'll eventually realise you need to leave. even though his plan wasn't to leave the church, martin luther worked out he couldn't stay! thoughts? so much of being a catholic is about “belonging” rather than “believing”. it’s a family culture thing that you are born into. i know of a solid guy who spent 10 years continuing to “belong” to the roman catholic church even though he genuinely “believed” the gospel of Grace Alone in Christ Alone by Faith Alone.

he speaks of 2 conversions:
1) a born again converted to Jesus and being saved by his grace.
2) and then 10 years later – being converted out of the roman catholic church.

he is now a pastor in a protestant church (and doing some fine things in helping people to think through the difs b/w RCC and the Gospel).

so i think that you can be a Christian and still part of the Catholic church – but my guess is that, like my friend, you’ll eventually realise you need to leave.

even though his plan wasn’t to leave the church, martin luther worked out he couldn’t stay!

thoughts?

]]> By: jpj http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2553 jpj Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:43:15 +0000 http://davemiers.com/2008/04/23/dont-steal-gods-glory-1/#comment-2553 Nice post! Interested in your thoughts...if a Catholic comes to believe in radical grace, are they still Catholic? Should they remain in the Catholic church? Nice post!

Interested in your thoughts…if a Catholic comes to believe in radical grace, are they still Catholic? Should they remain in the Catholic church?

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