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	<title>Comments on: Jesus Life Culture Design #11</title>
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		<title>By: davemiers</title>
		<link>http://davemiers.com/2008/08/23/jesus-life-culture-design-11/comment-page-1/#comment-4373</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolutely.
good tension to keep checking.

what i don&#039;t like is when boring is exalted. i think this is an effort to safeguard what is going on in the above quote and to make sure that God gets the glory. but the problem is that in its reaction against purely personality driven preaching it goes too far the other way.

and so then what happens - with people like Mark Driscoll - is that those wanting to safeguard good truths end up bagging a brother in Christ and they are being counter-productive.

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&quot;but we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.&quot; (2 Cor 4:7)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely.<br />
good tension to keep checking.</p>
<p>what i don&#8217;t like is when boring is exalted. i think this is an effort to safeguard what is going on in the above quote and to make sure that God gets the glory. but the problem is that in its reaction against purely personality driven preaching it goes too far the other way.</p>
<p>and so then what happens &#8211; with people like Mark Driscoll &#8211; is that those wanting to safeguard good truths end up bagging a brother in Christ and they are being counter-productive.</p>
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<p>&#8220;but we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.&#8221; (2 Cor 4:7)</p>
<p>amen!</p>
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		<title>By: geoffc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I think you&#039;re right, and purely based on my own inability to concentrate in most sermons and lectures. When someone isn&#039;t boring in their method, it definately helps. 

I am concerned about preachers failing to remember this though; 

“It is wrong to assume that on the one hand there is a word, or a truth, and on the other hand there is a community existing as two separate entities, and that it would then be the task of the preacher to take this word, to manipulate and enliven it, in order to bring it within and apply it to the community. Rather, the Word moves along this path of its own accord. The preacher should and can do nothing more than be a servant of this movement inherent in the Word itself, and refrain from placing obstacles in its path.”
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Discipleship
 - From Faith and Theology Blog (I&#039;m not sure how to do links...)

There is a tension there. I&#039;m not sure where it is exactly, but it is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I think you&#8217;re right, and purely based on my own inability to concentrate in most sermons and lectures. When someone isn&#8217;t boring in their method, it definately helps. </p>
<p>I am concerned about preachers failing to remember this though; </p>
<p>“It is wrong to assume that on the one hand there is a word, or a truth, and on the other hand there is a community existing as two separate entities, and that it would then be the task of the preacher to take this word, to manipulate and enliven it, in order to bring it within and apply it to the community. Rather, the Word moves along this path of its own accord. The preacher should and can do nothing more than be a servant of this movement inherent in the Word itself, and refrain from placing obstacles in its path.”<br />
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Discipleship<br />
 &#8211; From Faith and Theology Blog (I&#8217;m not sure how to do links&#8230;)</p>
<p>There is a tension there. I&#8217;m not sure where it is exactly, but it is there.</p>
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		<title>By: davemiers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you can speak about Jesus a lot and the truth boldly but be boring.

so i think there is something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you can speak about Jesus a lot and the truth boldly but be boring.</p>
<p>so i think there is something else.</p>
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		<title>By: geoffc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Mark Driscoll not boring because he speaks about Jesus a lot and the truth boldly, or is there something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mark Driscoll not boring because he speaks about Jesus a lot and the truth boldly, or is there something else?</p>
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