Comments on: Subject to a better offer

By: James

James — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:38:47 +0000

I know this is an old thread but STABO is claimed to be a Gen Y phenomena in that they transparently do it – BUT there is nothing new under the sun.

Careers are based on the 3Gs, Get, Gobble, Go. Organisations dispose of people as commodities; executives have golden parachutes even if they are sacked while they dispose of staff or prevent pay rises for others. Consider the relationship between GFC, sub-prime lending, PIGS debt as well as Italy’s debt and STABO.

Gen Y just has fewer pretences and acts as though STABO is OK even when they lose out to it.

All should be asked what “Love others as you love yourself” and “But I tell you love your enemies” means in practice.

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By: mattt

mattt — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:07:57 +0000

I like your thinking Dave.

HABITS – Humans Always Behaving In Their Selfishness

By: guthers

guthers — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:56:02 +0000

so what does HABITS stand for?

I agree with Ben – better to think through the issue and address it rather than just put the boot into an entire generation…

By: davemiers

davemiers — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:20:56 +0000

rather than just shaking their heads in disappointment at Gen Y.

that’s part of what i’m trying to think through.

i think you’re right with the habits thing.
i think habits are an important part of discipleship… and you do want gen y Christians to see the habits that are the fruit of godliness.

doug fields and the PDYM (purpose driven youth ministry) crew have an acronym HABITS that is part of their discipleship program. basically it’s 6 habits of what a godly Christian looks like.

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:10:57 +0000

Good post, mate. It’s fantastic when people try to get around the problem rather than just shaking their heads in disappointment at Gen Y.

I guess my frustration is that it’s ongoing. You don’t just have to convince them once, you need to keep showing them that it’s a better offer, whereas perhaps an older generation only needed to be convinced of the importance of church/ministry/evangelism/godliness and then was more likely to become part of a habit.

‘Habit’ is a word that’s dropped out of use a bit, don’t you think?

By: Eugene

Eugene — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:08:55 +0000

looking forward for more information about this. thanks for sharing. Eugene

By: davemiers

davemiers — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:26:29 +0000

i like your point about being reluctant to commit to the transient. thanks – it’s helpful in clarifying some thinking.

By: Shane

Shane — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:09:51 +0000

hey Dave
I reckon ‘stabo’ is in part because they live in a world where everything shifts so quickly so they are reluctant to committ to the transient. Yet there are some foundational things that are so real that once they find them they’ll give everything to it. Like relationships, identties and communities… that which is visceral….
its why I think we can confidently keep speaking of a relationship that is championed through blood and death. not only is it true, it works. (like prayer).