Comments on: Barack Obama Inauguration – Rick Warren’s Prayer http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/ davemiers.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:00:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: takeheed http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5414 takeheed Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:18:00 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5414 It's important to note that in the official text of Mr Warren's prayer on his church website only the first part of the Jewish SHEMA is in quotation marks - "Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God". The next phrase is printed as follows - The Lord is One, and You are the compassionate and Merciful One and You are loving to everyone You have made. This virtually Jesuitical phrasing was designed to infer that the Jewish 'Lord and God' is also the same 'Lord and God' of Islam and Christianity - NOT TRUE! My full assessment of this prayer can be viewed on http://www.takeheed.net/CurrentConcerns_2/Warren_inaugural_prayer.htm It’s important to note that in the official text of Mr Warren’s prayer on his church website only the first part of the Jewish SHEMA is in quotation marks – “Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God”. The next phrase is printed as follows – The Lord is One, and You are the compassionate and Merciful One and You are loving to everyone You have made. This virtually Jesuitical phrasing was designed to infer that the Jewish ‘Lord and God’ is also the same ‘Lord and God’ of Islam and Christianity – NOT TRUE!
My full assessment of this prayer can be viewed on
http://www.takeheed.net/CurrentConcerns_2/Warren_inaugural_prayer.htm

]]> By: psychodougie http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5411 psychodougie Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:08:35 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5411 yeah, generally i thought it was ok except for that line you said. i also wonder whether among the persecution of <i>refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people</i>, whether the latter ones are the biggest groups of people that suffer the worst kind of persecution and discrimination? why didn't he pray for the falun gong members of whom there's probably numerically more than gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender put together. is is because it's a cult that's wrong and is harmful to people? my point is just that there's a lot of bad stuff, and his concern - indeed God's concern as we see his righteous anger in the bible, is directed somewhat differently to GR's prayer. my other concern was the lack of mention of, um, what's his name.... oh yeah, Jesus. i may post on my own on this later, but why do you reckon he didn't get a single mention? - even the most nominal anglican would pray in Jesus' name, surely. there's my morning thoughts anyway! yeah, generally i thought it was ok except for that line you said.
i also wonder whether among the persecution of refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, whether the latter ones are the biggest groups of people that suffer the worst kind of persecution and discrimination? why didn’t he pray for the falun gong members of whom there’s probably numerically more than gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender put together. is is because it’s a cult that’s wrong and is harmful to people? my point is just that there’s a lot of bad stuff, and his concern – indeed God’s concern as we see his righteous anger in the bible, is directed somewhat differently to GR’s prayer.

my other concern was the lack of mention of, um, what’s his name…. oh yeah, Jesus. i may post on my own on this later, but why do you reckon he didn’t get a single mention? – even the most nominal anglican would pray in Jesus’ name, surely.

there’s my morning thoughts anyway!

]]> By: davemiers http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5409 davemiers Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:56:45 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5409 yeah interesting stuff on the Isa thing. there were some comments on JT's blog saying similar to what you've just said. i'll be interested to hear your thoughts after further reading. as far as GR's prayer (btw thanks 4 linking to it) - he prayed for some really good stuff. the first line is pretty ambiguous though: <i>O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will…</i> It's obviously consistent with his own theology. i wonder whether kicking off a prayer to a god like that pretty much nullifies any of the good stuff he says later on?? what did you think? yeah interesting stuff on the Isa thing. there were some comments on JT’s blog saying similar to what you’ve just said. i’ll be interested to hear your thoughts after further reading.

as far as GR’s prayer (btw thanks 4 linking to it) – he prayed for some really good stuff. the first line is pretty ambiguous though: O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will…
It’s obviously consistent with his own theology.
i wonder whether kicking off a prayer to a god like that pretty much nullifies any of the good stuff he says later on??

what did you think?

]]> By: psychodougie http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5408 psychodougie Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:43:35 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5408 just saw it <a href="http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2009/01/bishop-gene-robinsons-elegant-prayer.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. if you're interested. just saw it here.
if you’re interested.

]]> By: psychodougie http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5407 psychodougie Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:36:18 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5407 got a book on islam that i'll read when i get back - one chapter is 'why 'Isa isn't the same as Jesus'. i wonder if Warren's read that chapter. any thoughts on Gene Robinson's prayer (i'm in the bush, a bit out of touch)? got a book on islam that i’ll read when i get back – one chapter is ‘why ‘Isa isn’t the same as Jesus’. i wonder if Warren’s read that chapter.

any thoughts on Gene Robinson’s prayer (i’m in the bush, a bit out of touch)?

]]> By: davemiers http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5406 davemiers Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:06:58 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5406 here's some good gear from MD's blog: http://theresurgence.com/rick_warrens_prayer here’s some good gear from MD’s blog:
http://theresurgence.com/rick_warrens_prayer

]]> By: RodeoClown http://davemiers.com/2009/01/21/barack-obama-inauguration-rick-warrens-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-5403 RodeoClown Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:56:40 +0000 http://davemiers.com/?p=2093#comment-5403 I think it was a pretty good prayer. And it was in the name of Jesus, not some faceless 'God'. I think it was a pretty good prayer. And it was in the name of Jesus, not some faceless ‘God’.

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