DID GOD DIE ON THE CROSS?

Did God die on the cross? Good question. At least one popular preacher has a chapter of a book and a sermon entitled “GOD DIES” when dealing with the cross. But is that accurate? I’ve heard a number of younger guys speak of the cross in that way, but I’m not convinced that God did die on the cross. Below is an extract from Dr. R.C. Sproul’s tremendous little book The Truth of the Cross. In the final chapter Sproul has a Q+A section dealing with some tricky questions about the cross. I like his response for this question.

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The famous hymn of the church “And Can it Be?” contains a line that asks a very poignant question : “How can it be that thou, my God, shouldst die for me?” Is it accurate to say that God died on the cross?

This kind of expression is popular in hymnody and in grassroots conversation. So although I have this scruple about the hymn and it bothers me that the expression is there, I think I understand it, and there’s a way to give an indulgence for it.

We believe that Jesus Christ was God incarnate. We also believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross. If we say that God died on the cross, and if by that we mean that the divine nature perished, we have stepped over the edge into serious heresy. In fact, two such heresies related to this problem arose in the early centuries of the church: theopassianism and patripassianism. The first of these, theopassianism, teaches that God Himself suffered death on the cross. Patripassianism indicates that the Father suffered vicariously through the suffering of His Son. Both of these heresies were roundly rejected by the church for the very reason that they categorically deny the very character and nature of God, including His immutability. There is no change in the substantive nature or character of God at any time.

God not only created the universe, He sustains it by the very power of His being. As Paul said, “In Him we live and move and have our being” (Acts 17:28). If the being of God ceased for one second, the universe would disappear. It would pass out of existence, because nothing can exist apart from the sustaining power of God. If God dies, everything dies with Him. Obviously, then, God could not have perished on the cross.

Some say, “It was the second person of the Trinity Who died.” That would be a mutation within the very being of God, because when we look at the Trinity we say that the three are one in essence, and that though there are personal distinctions among the persons of the Godhead, those distinctions are not essential in the sense that they are differences in being. Death is something that would involve a change in one’s being.

We should shrink in horror from the idea that God actually died on the cross. The atonement was made by the human nature of Christ. Somehow people tend to think that this lessens the dignity or the value of the substitutionary act, as if we were somehow implicitly denying the deity of Christ. God forbid. It’s the God-man Who dies, but death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.
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Extract from R.C. Sproul, The Truth of the Cross.
Originally posted here.

KYCK SEES 900 YOUTH COMMIT TO CHRIST

#KYCK2013

Sydney Anglicans recently ran an article on KYCK 2013. I missed posting about it while I was away. So here it is. The pic is from KYCK Facebook page. See below for a snippet…

This year’s Katoomba Youth Christian Convention, known as KYCK, totalled roughly six thousand delegates over the three weekends and saw some 900 young people either become a Christian for the first time, or recommit themselves to following Christ.

The theme of this year’s convention, which concluded last weekend, was This is Love, focusing on the book of 1 John through six talks.

One of the two speakers at the convention, St Faith’s Narrabeen youth pastor Dave Miers, says that he was overjoyed by the response from many of the youth, and hopes to see them continue to follow Christ in the months and years ahead.

Click here to see the whole article, including some of my quotes.

#CompassionINDO Manado Trip 2013 + Why Child Sponsorship Works @CompassionAU

In April/May 2013 I went on a trip with a bunch of other ministers to visit some of Compassion’s projects in Manado, East Indonesia. It really was an amazing trip! This post is a summary of the trip. I didn’t realise I’d written so many posts, but below there are 25 short blog posts written during and after the trip. Thanks to the team from Compassion for the opportunity to gain insights into their incredible work. Thanks also to the many who have followed along with the journey. Click here to sponsor a kid.

Compassion Manado 2013

  1. SINGAPORE TO MANADO
  2. SUNSET MANADO
  3. RICH + POOR
  4. THE SKINNY ON COMPASSION EAST INDO
  5. KING OF THE KIDS
  6. PARTNERSHIP WITH CHURCHES
  7. GRATEFUL FOR GRACE
  8. STOP CUTTING BABIES IN HALF
  9. WILL YOU SPONSOR JUN?
  10. LOOK, IT’S JUSTIN BIEBER!
  11. LOOSE THE CHAINS OF INJUSTICE
  12. ROLL THE CAMERAS
  13. YESUS NOMOR SATU!
  14. NEEDING CLEAN WATER
  15. MANADO RAW CUT
  16. MANADO 2013 RAW CUT #CompassionINDO
  17. LOVE IS NOT OPTIONAL
  18. WRITE LETTERS TO YOUR SPONSOR CHILD
  19. THE TASTES OF MANADO
  20. TAKRAW // CONNECTING THROUGH SPORT
  21. JESUS LOVES KIDS
  22. THE TEAM
  23. FEGA’S PAIN-FILLED POEM
  24. TUHAN ITU BAIK KEPADA SEMUA ORANG
  25. CHRIST + CHILDREN + CHURCH

Marcus Reeves from Crossroads Canberra has written a fantastic summary of the trip, probably more worthwhile than my 25 posts above!

WYDICK RESEARCH – COMPASSION CHILD SPONSORSHIP… IT WORKS!

Some independent research has just been released regarding Compassion’s child sponsorship work.

Compassion Australia CEO Tim Hanna has this to say about the research:

“I’m very excited about the results of this research. We have known for many years that Compassion child sponsorship is making a deep and lasting difference in the lives of individual children—now we have world-class independent research to support this.”

Check this video:

See more videos | View full report (PDF) | Compassion Media Release | FAQ | Compassion

CHRIST + CHILDREN + CHURCH

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#CompassionINDO @CompassionAU

Compassion describe the heart of what they do as Christ-centred, Child-focused and Church-based.

I love these 3 values and saw each of them in practice while in Indonesia.

CHRIST-CENTRED // it’s clear that Compassion’s work flows out of a commitment to Christ and sharing his love. The good news of Jesus is made known in word and deed.

CHILD-FOCUSED // kids are the most vulnerable in places of poverty and it’s right to focus on helping them out of the poverty cycle. Education and child sponsorship works.

CHURCH-BASED // this is a real winner! Their partnership with local churches means that they are even more effective in the other two (Christ-centred & child-focused). Churches are empowered and resourced to be a genuine blessing to their community, both now and for eternity!
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This is the final compassion trip posts. Thanks for reading along. I will put a summary page on davemiers.com

Check out compassion.com.au to see and consider supporting Compassion’s great work.

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